Q
Is the Upmove Over?
As you all know,I am counting this upmove from 4720 as retracement ABC wherein
A=4720-5114
B=5114-4911
C=4911 upwards as a 5 wave form:
C1=4911-5030
C2=5030-4968
C3=4968-5143
C4=5143-5019.35* Now this C4 has entered into C1 territory and thus put a question mark over the upmove.
EOD charts---pl see link---donot indicate overlapping of C4 and C1 on closing basis(and intraday overlapping is allowed) so lets wait another day to see how the final pattern emerges--http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3774/nifty1992011.png
UnQ
So confident I was about the upmove not being over as yet that even mentioned the probability of C being an Ending Diagonal (thanks to Laluji and Shriji,opened the EW manual again and found that though a Leading Diagonal could be 5*3*5*3*5, an Ending Diagonal has to be only 3*3*3*3*3, thus C's probability of being an ED was ruled out as C1 was clearly a 5 wave form)
But let me mention why am I confident of C going past 5170--
All those who are counting C as being over at 5169, are basing their counts on either of two factors:
1. Truncated C(where 5th wave of C failed to go past 3rd):
A=4720-5114=394
B=5114-4943=171
C=4943-5169=226
Now this C is only 57.3% of A , so the basic miminum required for a 3 wave ABC(C=min. o.618*A) was not fulfilled so I could not get convinced by this Count. And counted these waves as :
A=4720-5114=394
B(a)=5114-4943=171
B(b)=4943-5169=226(132% of B(a);
2. There are a few of my friends,who argued that A was not 4720-5114 and the spike to 5114 was a "bogus" which I had to reject outrightly.
Now my friend Shri has argued that C2 as counted by me , was non-existent as its fractals are invisible. All I can say is that this is the sheer beauty & romance of counting Nifty where we have to cope up with various gap ups/downs and do counting based on percentages and without fractals and that is why sometimes it takes a day or two for the clear pattern to emerge.
My Guru Baluji, writing here as Waverider, suggested to me that as C3=4968-5143=175 has done only 147% of C1=4911-5030=119 so it may be seen as still continuing and the move from 5143-5020 be seen as part of C3 only(and not as C4) ----well that probability is definitely ON ---
So our C to the up is ON,and it remains to be seen whether it be labelled C3 or C5 but 5170 very clearly going to be crossed.
Now the question is what are the possible targets for this upmove?
Retaining my Counts , I would say, C5 is in play as a 5 wave and has today played out:
sw1=5020-5095=75
sw2=5095-5071=24
sw3=5071-5150* and likely to test 1.62*sw1=5192
Thus Ist target would be 5192---
And lets remember, Minimum target for this C is 0.618*A=244+4911=5155
For a visual understanding of Charts,following link may be useful:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/665/n2092011.jpg
Comparatively longer post--- hope all of you would have found it useful.
Raghu
Guruji - aatmapranaam
ReplyDeleteNever questioned the targets you gave but certainly question the candles you have taken.
[Also gave you the calculation that without taking that freak candle of A at 5114, the counts are conforming and confirming your count so far]
If we can get the LnT counts as well in the same order with that freak candle of 2001 as the high [given by the exchange] then maybe we can use the same logic.
Anyways - for now we take one one leher at a time......
Always under Guruji and Mahaguruji.... Nagi
The C-3rd is still in continuation; theory seems to be a rare possibility
ReplyDeleteBecause, if we do the projection of complete C-3rd as per this theory,
Then it reaches to 5370 minimum. That means the projected length of C-3rd
is 400 points or more, which is 336% or more of C-1st, which does not occur often?
& in this way Total C will go much far, this is also an odd, in this theory, viewing in rear
View mirror where looks A of 394 points & B 50% thereof. So stretching of C, more than 100% of A, does not looks reasonable.
So having reasonable out look is always better.
Dear Naagi,
ReplyDeleteAs I have always been saying--To each his own.
Also,the beauty of counting the Nifty live is that one never needs a judge--Nifty itself tells one,sooner or later,the result.
That is why we should never argue. If I mention my point of view,it is neither meant to belittle anyone nor to supercede anything. My purpose is primarily to see if one can trade profitably by using EW counts.
So far so good.
Thanks Laluji once again.
ReplyDeleteAnd the last lines added to today's post are courtsey your comment
"Minimum target for this C is 0.618*A=244+4968=5212"
Raghu
Dear Guru ji,
ReplyDeleteCharan vandan.
Raghu ji, your each and every word is gem for me. Love you sir.
Good luck.
Jeevan.
Dear Guruji,
ReplyDeletevery long, but v good post!
my count is set to become invalid tomorrow above 5160.
I learn everyday, just by reading ur word :-)
urs
Dear Guruji
ReplyDeleteVery well said indeed - at the end we need to see Nifty maiya's output and trade profitably.
My Dear SMO
I think the sheer joy of being in the paathshaala with such wonderful gurus offsets invalidation of counts - hai na?
Jai Bajrang Bali
Psst Psst: Our Mahaguruji also makes it a point to pay homage to Hanumanji every Saturday.....
One small but significant change has been made:
ReplyDelete"Minimum target for this C is 0.618*A=244+4911=5155"
yes nagi,
ReplyDeleteyes indeed!
Raghuji has taught me all that he knows. now its upto me to b a gud sishya & learn fast and become a good wave rider,
As far as being a good trader goes, i have a v long way to go, but atleast being a good wave rider is a must! bare minimum dakshina, given the Qaulity of "the Guru" :-)