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Friday, August 3, 2012

Nifty on 03-08-2012


"Markets are the most entertaining places on the face of the Earth.They are like a card game, a chess game, and a horse race all rolled into one. The game goes on at all hours—you can always find action.
Trading is the most exciting activity that a person can do with their clothes on. Trouble is, you cannot feel excited and make money at the same time."
-Dr. Elder Alexander


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An Intraday pull back of 60-odd points can again bring us up in 5240 zone--- to complete B(c) and in view of the negative sentiments developed overnight,I would not be surpised if the last subwave(v) of B(c) remains truncated i.e. doesnot go above the high of subwave(iii) i.e. 5246.
So the B wave from 5033 upwards gets labelled as:
B(a)=5033-5150=117
B(b)=5150-5078=72
B(c) in play from 5078 upwards and cannot do more than 1.618xB(a)=5267 and so the likelihood of its playing out as a diagonal is very high:
(i)=5078-5218=140
(ii)=5218-5154=64
(iii)=5154-5246=92
(iv)=5246-5210* in play
 and (v) yet to play out.

So a gap-down to 5180 and then a rise to 5250 and then beginning of larger downmove as C to sub 5000 --this is how I am seeing the August series fanning out. 150DMA at 5164 may very well be today's downpoint. And please donot forget that 5267 is the upperboundary for these labels. Violation of 5267 would make these labels invalid. For traders,therefore,the stop-loss for shorts remains at 5267.
9.45 AM
First hurdle of the day.Part booking of shorts advised.
10.09 AM
If anyone chooses to go long--I am not doing so,but would short again at higher levels--one must put a stop loss at day's low.
10.45 AM
As pointed out by Piyush, the downmove doesnot remain a zig-zag below 5172 as a=5246-5210=36;b=5210-5231;c=5231-5270*=61 means c has exceeded its limit of 1.618 and become extended so the downmove has to be termed (i),(ii) and extended (iii) fro 5231 downwrds----
And thus the higher degree downmove is on as---
A=5348-5033
B=5033-5246
C=5246--downwards normally C=A=315 gives a target of 4931
Minimum is 0.62xA=195=5050
So all shorts should be held for positional gains now---
11.35 AM
Trying to locate next trendline support in view of major fall indicated :
12.03 PM
150 DMA seems to have supported--reaction upmoves may be handled with the help of following channels:
12.22 PM :
Did anyone read my post on L & T in Jackpot Trades yesterday ?
If yes--then must be a happy person now--


1.40 PM
1.50 PM
Markets always have one extra hidden in its sleeve.
While I was expecting an ideal 5 wave Impulse as:
5246-5210
5210-5231
5231-5165
5164--upward not going into 5210--
but by going into 5210 it has informed that Ist Impulse was over at 5165.(besides filling the gap created in the morning---)


So the C wave to the down from 5246 should be seen as:
C1-5246-5165=81
C2-5165-5210.1*
EOD:
Can I cannot help laughing---I wrote in the morning,quoting Elder Alexander,that mkts. are the most entertaining places--and look how it played out--


So now that
C1=5246-5165=81
C2=5165-5220=55(68%) and following channel seems to be in play:
And as I write this,some doubts are creeping in my mind:
B(c)=5078-5246 was not complete as a 5 subwave diagonal in the morning so should we not continue with our labels as B(c) still in play :
(i)=5078-5218=140
(ii)=5218-5155
(iii)=5155-5246=92
(iv)=5246-5165
(v)=5165-5220*


While the internal fractals of (iv) as 5246-5210;5210-5231;5231-5165 donot allow me to term it as a zig-zag(as c can not do more than 1.62*a) but then absence of 4th & 5th subwaves coupled with the fact that 5155 remained unbreached, makes me mention this Probablity also as still ON.
And if so,then we may go upto 5165+91=5256


So all shorts to have their Stop-losses at 5258 (and not at 5247)and target at sub-5000.


Good bye,have a nice week-end.


PS:
Bulls may say that we got support at 150DMA and closed above 20 DMA again,But I would become bullish only above 5258.
However,I must mention that today's mid-day turnaround was something which had been missing from our markets of late.

43 comments:

  1. guruji below 5172 c=1.62a so 5th rally then??

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    1. That would mean B ended at 5246--and C in play---

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  2. Sir
    Don't u think ur above count got invalidated the moment (iv) entered the territory of (i)

    In my view

    upside over at 5247
    now sw1 5247-5210
    sw 2 5210-5232
    sw3 5232 - approx 5155 in progress

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    1. As I was taking it as a diagonal--- subwave 4 going into subwave 1--has only confirmed it not invalidated--:-)

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    2. in that case what should be the invalidation point ideally

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    3. I have posted in detail---the presumed (iv) as a zig-zag got invalidated once c>1.62a--

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  3. furuji,
    breach of 5172 means zz from 5246 c>1.618 a.
    u r not saying B finished yet??

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    1. It is in any case into "short at every rise"till sub 5000 zone--- and thats what I would do without going into minutest details---

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    1. what's thsi---HHHHHHHHHHHHHH--why this sorry thankyou--- Lets concentrate on trades.

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    2. it was typo (furuji) instead of guruji

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  5. guruji,
    i was thinking suppose from 5346 its zz. 1.62 relevant. if wzz then wxy 1.62 not relevant??
    5154 breach for confirmation necessary??

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  6. Raghu ji: where is the LT post? Can't seem to find it.

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    1. http://sanjayraghuvanshi.blogspot.in/2012/07/larsen-toubro.html

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  7. @yg123: it is in july post, @ raghuji, follow by email ka feature bhi daal dijiye plz us blog main.

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  8. Yes guruji... I did but booked @ 1350...can't stop myself.

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  9. Thank You Very Much for L&T information.

    We are following the L&T since your last post during December, 2011.

    Sir nearly we also marked the same way you did Sir,

    What we want to convey to you Sir, 'We are learning'

    Thank You Once Again Sir

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    1. Learning never ends--infact,the more you learn-the more you become aware of your "unawareness"--thats the beauty--

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  10. guruji
    u have mentioned triangle since 2008. can it be flat with diagonal as c wave. asking for inv purpose.. i have not looked at charts myself so pardon if a stupid question.

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    1. I have mentioned both--poora dekh to lo maharaaj--

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    2. dhanyawaad guruji. just looked at charts..a=2345-556=1789,c2212-969=1243. shud be .618 is .69. triangle chance less though can be triangel if .618 is there in bd and ce . am i right??

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  11. Raghu Sir, I missed. At least 5 times I have visited your "Jackpot Trades" site. As normally new post appear in the top, I thought you are going to start only after mid of July.

    Just now noted that your L&T info is presented after "REALITY SHOW ...". So missed. Now onwards I will make sure that I will scroll and check completely.

    Yesterday night when I saw free fall in the Europe market, I was thinking about you.

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  12. Yes Sir,
    I am i LT, and in profit too. I also made something with SBI too, even trading with little capital.
    Thanks Sir

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  13. Raghu Ji,

    As per my understanding of your calculation, B should end by yesterday. I tried applying fib ratios on days. It matched. Thought of sharing the same....(not sure on can apply fib ratio on days. Only recently I started learning these jargans...)

    A: July 10th to 26th: 13 working days.
    13*0.613 = 7.969.
    July 26th + 7.969 = last hour of trading session of Aug 2nd.

    This adds strenght to the belief of potential end of B.

    Thanks Guru ji.

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  14. Guru ji one 5 upwave complete from 5164.65 to 5204.55.

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  15. "the more you learn-the more you become aware of your unawareness"

    well said

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  16. You get auto EW count calculator

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  17. With Due respect I have found Raghuvanshi go wrong 8 out of 10 times.I do not understand what is purpose to fill up the pages counting waves and fractals when this purpose can be easily solved by EW count calculator available on some websites.You have failed once again.You said you will be bullish above 5258 We are opening gap up on Monday and strangely when u will go bullish,Market will come down.You are no different than an average joe or retail trader difference is you have read 2-3 books on Alexander so u write good things but when it comes to practical trading you are no different than 95% of traders that are losing in market.case in point Monday's gap up opening & when ur wave counts will start giving Bullish signs Market will see profit booking and distribution pattern.!

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  18. In Stock market what is more important is to remove noise from trading.Horses for courses should be implemented in trading.EW are excellent but it is so complex that it it is futile to use EW for day trading or positional trading of a week.EW works better for rolling positions ie a trader keeping positions open for more than 2 weeks.SO IMHO EW works well for monthly and Yearly charts but is not a right tool for day trading or very short holding period of less than 2 weeks.

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  19. Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.Intelligence is not putting it in a fruit salad.Application of Intelligence is using tomato pulp as dressing in different foods.

    Similar in stock market it is important to apply knowledge right way.IMHO EW is very important to know a major breakdown or breakout of a Stock for medium to long term.In current times post 2008 the market has become so volatile that data like VIX,IVS,OI are more important for traders.And due to frequent Whipsaws EW is not suitable for day to day trend analysis or for short term trading (less than 1 week).Btw like 3 idiots movie,traders should rather have out of box thinking instead of going by books or theory knowledge.We do not want to become like CHATTUR - Ratta Mar master.

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  20. Dear Mr.Unknown!

    Its easy to criticize others but its quite difficult to do something positive. Firstmost, why u r unknown? If you have courage that you are doing right thing then come forward with ur original identity. Raghu ji is not giving any call here, he gives EW probability. One must take care of his trades thru stoploss & keep ready alternate plan if main plan is going wrong. You have good command on english so use this for some constructive work, either ur coming generations will not excuse you bcoz they will be fruits of negative seed which you are sapling now:-)

    Thanx n regards,

    Mukesh Singh

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    1. This is the problem with Majority of Indians,Moment you have a different point of view you are served with sermons.We are nation that loves to celebrate Mediocrity with great pomp.We have just won couple of bronze and a silver medals but Media,Politicians and over enthused Indians are behaving as if we have topped the medal List.Of course sportsmen and sportswomen should be encouraged but how? By giving 1 crore each/Media blares 24*7,singing peans of those couple of broze medals.And all this accolades/monetary benefits turns to zilch when same sportsmen compete next time around.We are a nation that loves to rest on our past laurels.Abhinav Bindra failed to cross even the prelims.

      Coming to your specific allegation i am neither a saint nor a Bodhvik Jiva to criticize Mr Raghuvanshi.I am merely dishing out his past track record.And also pitfalls of using EW for day to day trades/short term trades.I am of firm opinion that EW works well for Monthly or Yearly charts.I am just giving my point of view that traders must have a pragmatic approach towards trading.Text book theory/knowledge works to some extent.Beyond that in real time,traders must think out of box.Must innovate,tweak trading theory to suit his or her risk.Managing risk should be fulcrum of any trading strategy.For day to day trading/short term trading EW gives high number of losing trades.Stop loss is okay,but what is fun if 8 out of 10 times trades turn out to be on losing side?

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    2. You should blame Google/Blogger for not publishing my name.I have no intention of not revealing my name.There is some glitch with blogger.Btw i am Kunal Seth.You may search 2nd profile in Linkedln.Thanks.

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    3. And... Mr Mukesh Singh because you talked about Future generations.. I wonder what kind of future generations seeds are you dreaming? When your Avatar shows a Kid with Gun? I think you should be worrying about your future generation.

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  21. Dear kunal Seth/Unknown!

    You are unnecessary dragging the issue & showing some personal rivalry to him. Raghu ji never gives stoploss of 50/50, his stoploss is 10-20 points & reward becomes 100-200 points which is reasonable by all angles in technical analysis. I did so many trades when i got decent profit on his trade set-up & risk was nominal. Many times Mr.Raghu mentioned that stoploss hit so no trade for today, how many analysts do this? Secondly, if you dont like his analysis or views then do not visit here...it will be gentleman's game.

    You indicated about my avatar pic, see again introduction in my profile. Very clearly mentioned there "Tit for tat is my funda & i know very well that how to handle Idots...". So my dear dont go on pic, get insight there. I showed you mirror, nothing wrong in this. I am sure you will take all this positively & try to understand that its not ur blog/home or territory. Its Mr.Raghu's blog & its his job that how to maintain it:-)

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  22. Dear Mukesh & Kunal Seth,
    Thanks for your contribution to my blog.
    My advice to both of you would be to pick up what you like from here and leave the unliked part---
    I am what I am and you are what you are.
    Kunal seems to be very experienced in EW and has chosen it for his long term investmets---- my best wishes to him.
    My blog looks very detailed & useless to him--- but I can't help it.It is my way of putting across my whole thought process and I find it very useful as this diary of mine helps me in progressing in my technical analysis in my own way and in my own pace.If anyone finds an element of his own thought process in these details,he would like it.
    And if someone finds it "having been there,having done that" stuff(as Kunal seems to be feeling)--he would suggest(in his own way)to leave it and "grow" in his style.
    My only request to Kunal is to allow me growth in my own way and thank him for providing an alternative to the visitors to this blog.

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  23. प्रिय लालू जी,

    आपकी रचनात्मक हिंदी पड़ कर मेरा हृदय प्रस्संन चित्त हो गया, आपने बहुत सहजता से सटीक उत्तर दिया है कि "आपके लेखों से स्पष्ट संकेत मिलता है की आप EW के अच्छे जानकार हैं ! इस लिए ही मेरा आपसे अनुरोध है क़ि, आप अपनी ज्ञान और ऊर्जा से सभी को लाभान्वित करें"! एक बार रघुवंशी जी ने मुझे ज्ञान दिया था कि आप लालू जी कि बात को कभी हलके में ना ले और आज मेरी समझ में आ गया है कि रघुवंशी जी ने ऐसा क्यों कहा था! मै आपके ज्ञान और रचनात्मक दर्शनशास्त्र को कोटि कोटि नमन करता हूँ !

    आप सब का अनुयायी

    मुकेश सिंह

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  24. Ha ha ha ,

    Dear Mukesh,
    Koti- Koti ?
    1Naman = 1dandwat=1 Push-up

    yadi 1k din mein 100 push ups mane 100 dand ka bhee hisab lagayen
    toh 1 koti= 1 crore/100= 375 years
    yani it will take 375 years to complete 1 crore naman & you were taking about multi crores.... ha ha ha... kuchh jyada nahee ho gaya kya ? ha ha ha ha

    August 6, 2012 2:35 PM

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  25. श्री लालू जी,

    मै रघुवंशी जी की सहजता और उदारता का सम्मान करता हूँ और वो आपका सम्मान करते हैं सो मेरे लिए इसका अर्थ ये है की आप में कुछ न कुछ सदगुण और महानता अवश्य है ! मेरा कोटि कोटि नमन प्रतीकात्मक है सो मै आपके ज्ञान के लिए आपको एक बार पुन: कोटि कोटि नमन करता हूँ ! रही ३७५ बरसो की बात सो आपको यक्ष और युधिस्टर का उत्तर स्मरण याद होगा जिसमे युधिस्टर का उत्तर था की मन की गति सबसे तेज होती है सो यदि मै आपको मन से कोटि कोटि नमन कर रहा हूँ तो ये ३७५ वर्ष का कार्य कुछ पल में सम्पूर्ण हो गया सिर्फ श्रद्धा की आवश्यकता थी और अब आपके विश्वास की :-)

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